20 years wow

Greetings Paul,

Speaking of on the road again.......you're heading West? Hopefully some place more reasonable to live than California. Personally, with the costs and taxes here in Michigan I sure wouldn't make this my first choice.
There sure were a lot of memories from T-land. Some good, some not. Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of--but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from. I try to follow the "if you can't say something good..." philosophy so I won't say too much about Thermotron but the last 3 years seem to have made the problems with that management theory finally have a major effect on their business. It surprises me that it takes so long for results to be seen from both good and bad things. I would expect quicker results.

It seems to work for us to be aware of the competition but not sell against them or even address them too much in our approach, just concentrate on the equipment and what we will do for the customer. I have come to learn that there are some bad customers, very few actually, but it's best just to walk away and leave those to someone else.

Of course I think we could use more service people but I can't argue against the volume numbers I see coming in. The trend is up but not by leaps and bounds so we're still in a holding pattern as far as adding people. I certainly think you would be an asset. We don't have a wild crew (unless I'm missing something again) but then how wild can one guy be? As we get older we get wiser.
To thine own self be true. (and to heck with the rest)

I hope the move works out well and keep in touch.

Best regards,
Tom

-----Original Message-----From: paul saint [mailto:p1saint@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:52 PMTo: tpatterson@espec.comCc: p1saint@angelfire.comSubject: as always.. humble
thanks for letting me vent over these 20+ years..
But if i have ever hurt someone it was not intentional, but interesting hil sysbesma referred to the management style as "petty and vinidictive..Especallyafter o'kefe brought a law suit agains him for a million dallars as recall Hil telling me. When you leave with out his permission.
Tom banish's management style as dean tripp(i believe he is 70 years old this year or 71) said was"make it hard on him" he wanted to build a case against every one..
and Tom bannish was very succussful in that .. without a doubt
yes i never really fit in there.
gosh i guess i was a square.. not drinking all that beer at lunch and after work.
That is why tenbrink and dave durham called me squeky..i guess they were wild.. hank william's songs..
"on the road again.. i can't wait to get on the road again" tenbrink singing.. kind of like his brother who died young " the cournal " music man John even gave me a record that his brother produced.

yes john tenbrink was a wild man..
And mardy rich.. got a taste of his style of "leading people astray" this appears to be another holland style

Holland'ers, church goers
particular wird people.. where dishonesty was the policy..
But you tom patterson.. always seemed normal..
good job... that's why u are successful
look at these memories.. what a waste of time..
The biggest illusion was i thought it was important.. and nothing the work i did there mattered at all. it was just a monkey job..

see i did have a blank on my forhead..


>From: "Tom Patterson"
>To: "paul saint"
>Subject: Re: management and engineering
>Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:55:45 -0500
>
>How true.
>Are you out west avoiding this REAL winter or enjoying it in Michigan with the rest of us?
>Things are slow but steady here. The industry seems in as much trouble as I've ever seen it but who can tell what the future brings.
>Hope things are well with you.
>
>Tom P.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paul saint
> To: tpatterson@espec.com ; swordoftruthmin@hotmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:57 PM
> Subject: Fwd: management and engineering